Uh-oh

Russia invading Georgia

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7548715.stm

Yep. I'm hoping the UN do something.

If only they could buy my eguns

I think they need eTanks and eFighters more.

Bloody Russians, ah well at least they've stopped now. Pity the Americans and us have commitments elsewhere. Also, it's a pity the UN are such a bunch of pussies who dare not upset them. It really complicates things when the Russians have a permanent seat on the council which means they have veto rights.

widdows9000 wrote:Bloody Russians, ah well at least they've stopped now. Pity the Americans and us have commitments elsewhere. Also, it's a pity the UN are such a bunch of pussies who dare not upset them. It really complicates things when the Russians have a permanent seat on the council which means they have veto rights.

What could the UN do, even if they weren't "pussies"? they have no real power when it comes to military intervention.

Besides, the 2,000 casualties thus far are - while despicable - much less damaging than the possibilities if America had intervened.

Satya wrote:What could the UN do, even if they weren't "pussies"? they have no real power when it comes to military intervention.

Besides, the 2,000 casualties thus far are - while despicable - much less damaging than the possibilities if America had intervened.

The above should be changed, they need to have a proper peacekeeping force for situations like this.

If America had intervened the Russians would have left I think. It's no coincidence that Russia have stopped military actions just after Bush had a go at them.

After reading various articles I think Georgia are in the wrong here they invaded South Ossetia and Russia retaliated yet they are labelled as the 'bad guys' in a lot of the media

Georgia has a right to try and defeat armed separatists in their own region do they not? If a group in Liverpool suddenly armed themselves, declared themselves independent and threatened the government do you think our military would do nothing?

Russia invaded to show that it's the big boy in the Caucasus. Now Ukraine, Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan must be bricking it as thanks to the cowards in the UN Russia knows it can do what it wants and get away with it. The UN is weak as is NATO and the EU.

TheTruePredator wrote:After reading various articles I think Georgia are in the wrong here they invaded South Ossetia and Russia retaliated yet they are labelled as the 'bad guys' in a lot of the media

I think you're right TheTruePredator. To take your example Widdows, if the population of Liverpool did decide to take up arms, and then the Biritsh government responded by ethinically cleansing Liverpool, then I sure as hell hope another big country intervenes before more innocent lives are lost. Georgia deserved what it got. Did they really think that when they started killing Russian citizens Russia wouldn't intervene?

Also what do you expect the UN to do while Russia has the right of veto?

Not much. On the other hand, the lovely double standards of Western democracies are evident in the parallels between this situation and that of Kosovo.

Plus, I bet we won't see any Georgians hauled up for war crimes on bombing civilian targets during ceasefires.

StanWephen wrote:if the population of Liverpool did decide to take up arms, and then the Biritsh government responded by ethinically cleansing Liverpool, then I sure as hell hope another big country intervenes before more innocent lives are lost.

On the other hand you'd expect the government to send in the army and shoot whoever is waving a gun around in public. If Georgia had done that I'd be on their side. Ethnic cleansing is right out though and they've turned themselves into the bad guys by doing it.

What the hell. The only reports of ethnic cleansing come from the Russians, who lets face it, aren't the best of friends with Georgia and will do anything to destabilise Saakaahvili's government as they are a US ally. The Georgians have also said the Russians are ethnic cleansing but nobody believes them do they?

Oh and Stan the Georgians never bombed civilian targets during a ceasefire. That was the Russians, they hit hospitals and civilian apartment blocks when Georgia called a ceasefire and pulled back due to humanitarian reasons.

Mephit, the situation in Kosovo was far worse than it was in Georgia, the Russians just made the situation worse.

Tim, what about Nato? The EU? The G8? All groups Russia belong to, all groups that could expel Russia or threaten them yet all they did was call Russia's response 'disproportionate'. Now that is hard hitting diplomacy (not).

Oh and Stan, 'Georgia got what they deserved' is a ridiculous statement. Russia didn't just go after military bases or targets in South Ossetia. No, they bombed civilian housing and hospitals miles outside of the conflict zone. I would hardly say that wasn't aggressive.

And Russia wonder why so many people suspect them of not having changed much since the cold war when they do things like this...?