SPLITED topic: communism

funky44 wrote:

But the PCP as a party can try this, it should not be forced upon every citizen. As an experiment say?

But we are not proposing communism here. My party's views on this are different then mine and most of my party are more socialist then communist. 



What we do in the UK is to help the UK not to realise our own ideals. 

KIA Sneak wrote:... But we are not proposing communism here. My party's views on this are different then mine and most of my party are more socialist then communist.

What we do in the UK is to help the UK not to realise our own ideals.

I smell a name change! PSP Doing the best for the UK is what everybody politician should do. As soon as one is elected the good of the people goes before the party. It are the points of the party and the activeness of a candidate that should get people elected. It should be clear that dialogue is very important in politics. (Hey, I think I'm rambling! )

funky44 wrote:

KIA Sneak wrote:... But we are not proposing communism here. My party's views on this are different then mine and most of my party are more socialist then communist. 

What we do in the UK is to help the UK not to realise our own ideals.

I smell a name change! PSP Doing the best for the UK is what everybody politician should do. As soon as one is elected the good of the people goes before the party. It are the points of the party and the activeness of a candidate that should get people elected. It should be clear that dialogue is very important in politics. (Hey, I think I'm rambling! )

lol i could show you an 11 page thread which is about the party discussing its name but it doesn't really matter. We are the PCP. socialism is a dirty word and as there are some which refuse to accept a name change there is no reason to change. 

We win votes because of what we stand for not the fact the people like our name or because we have a union jack as our party logo. 

When was the last time UKRP reformed anything? and TUP is just confusing. 

KIA Sneak wrote:

funky44 wrote:

KIA Sneak wrote:... But we are not proposing communism here. My party's views on this are different then mine and most of my party are more socialist then communist.

What we do in the UK is to help the UK not to realise our own ideals.

I smell a name change! PSP Doing the best for the UK is what everybody politician should do. As soon as one is elected the good of the people goes before the party. It are the points of the party and the activeness of a candidate that should get people elected. It should be clear that dialogue is very important in politics. (Hey, I think I'm rambling! )

lol i could show you an 11 page thread which is about the party discussing its name but it doesn't really matter. We are the PCP. socialism is a dirty word and as there are some which refuse to accept a name change there is no reason to change.

We win votes because of what we stand for not the fact the people like our name or because we have a union jack as our party logo.

When was the last time UKRP reformed anything? and TUP is just confusing.

Honestly, we are reforming right now!

god, I'm so happy to finally have these discussions again. I missed them so. You're making my day kia.
Unfortunately it's already 00.03 hours here in belgium and need to get up tomorrow at 8.00 so I'll answer further tomorrow. I just want to point out on this:

"When was the last time UKRP reformed anything? "

We laid the basics for this country, we brought order in this country when there was chaos. We made this country form the tiny shithole to a e-rep superpower. From all the changes that this country has gone trough, we have brought up the biggest and most important. Yes, PCP has brought up unions, but from the looks of it, they aren't really working.

We may not have done much great achievements lately, but the greatest of all in this country have all been done by UKRP. It was us who created the forum, it was us who created and organized the military, it was us who negotiated with SWE and NOR that later resulted in the NA, it was us who merged belgium with the UK,... Those things can't even be compared with stuff like unions or anything.

I agree that we have been a little bid quite lately, but if you would put up all our achievements against all those of PCP, we are ahead of you guys by mliles.

TUP is confusing?

Them be sounding like the words of a man desperate for a better insult

"Socialism" isn't a shiny happy version of "evil communism": it's actually the other way around. Communism is the Marxist ideal, whereas socialism is the Soviet reality.

What we have in the UK is liberal democracy, and what we had in here when there were genuine Labour governments in the aftermath of WW2 was social democracy. Socialism is well and truly dead in the UK: Tony Bliar destroyed it so thoroughly that it no longer even has a place in the opposition any more.

shadow wrote:god, I'm so happy to finally have these discussions again. I missed them so. You're making my day kia.
Unfortunately it's already 00.03 hours here in belgium and need to get up tomorrow at 8.00 so I'll answer further tomorrow. I just want to point out on this:

"When was the last time UKRP reformed anything? "

We laid the basics for this country, we brought order in this country when there was chaos. We made this country form the tiny shithole to a e-rep superpower. From all the changes that this country has gone trough, we have brought up the biggest and most important. Yes, PCP has brought up unions, but from the looks of it, they aren't really working.

We may not have done much great achievements lately, but the greatest of all in this country have all been done by UKRP. It was us who created the forum, it was us who created and organized the military, it was us who negotiated with SWE and NOR that later resulted in the NA, it was us who merged belgium with the UK,... Those things can't even be compared with stuff like unions or anything.

I agree that we have been a little bid quite lately, but if you would put up all our achievements against all those of PCP, we are ahead of you guys by mliles.

little arrogant maybe? 

all i was saying is other party names are just as misleading. I think our economic policy’s make us communist over socialist. 

Yes UKRP has been great for the country but most of that happened when PCP didn't even exist. 

the military was not down to UKRP. It was a combined effort and although the idea of paras you could lay claim to if you ever did then i could say i invited the reserves as i was the first to post on them. The military structure was also the combine effort of many. The structure now isn’t the same as it was in UKRP’s time but again the people who changed it are from different parties. 



It's all irellivant really i'm not saying UKRP is a bad party. 

This is getting far to off topic. 

KIA Sneak wrote:It's all irellivant really i'm not saying UKRP is a bad party.

This is getting far to off topic.

I said that in a thread about the King and Queen, and I got a response that this was the way UK Politics were

You took a shot at the UKRP, so you can't expect it's Founder (or co-founder, or whatever) to sit back and watch.

Oddly off-topic in an already off-topic thread... But I wanted to share these.

What the world would be like if the Soviets had won.

http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/dan/8-21-08/codespyder.jpg

http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/dan/8-21-08/JamesArk2.jpg

Hilarious!

hahaha, I lolled at the "dude, stop posting anti-party shit on my wall, you fag. ur gonna get me shipped of to the goulags like to did to vlad last month"